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Black Boxes... ---Quote (Originally by tango)--- Dropping. Hopefully some weirdos got on it. Two years ago the water quality was crazy. Seemed like a drainage... 10-22-2015 at 22:32 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Need a Third Man - Lower Blue Fishing Trip this Saturday 10/24 Attention Colorado Fishing Buzzards: Doing final rafting trip of the season on my rig, winterizing on Sunday. Plan on floating Lower Blue... 10-22-2015 at 22:22 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Probability of Winning A Grand Canyon Permit Hi Buckman, I pretty much agree. But over the years, I sat in a lot of meetings with Park representatives back when I was on the GCPBA Board. The... 10-22-2015 at 21:51 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Sleeping Bags - Synthetic "vs" Down Down bag with gore dryloft exterior 10-22-2015 at 21:44 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ranking Kayak Races California is the land of unofficial races. That said, during a summer paddling gathering at cherry creek one man paddled in run in about 35... 10-22-2015 at 21:28 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
FREE Kayak or SUP Delivery to AZ In Arizona and need a new or slightly used boat or SUP? We've got a truck headed to Flagstaff / Sedona / Phoenix areas over Halloween weekend, so... 10-22-2015 at 21:21 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
REO or PRO? ---Quote (Originally by Sleepless)--- Anyone but Moenkopi. Ceiba was top notch. My two cents. ---End Quote--- Sleepless, Just out of... 10-22-2015 at 21:19 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Help me understand this Grand Canyon Heli rescue ---Quote (Originally by Outlaw)--- For a bunch of folks sitting in their offices or typing on their phones, there sure is a lot of judgement going... 10-22-2015 at 21:12 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ranking Kayak Races Not sure what the big deal is about the green race. It looks pretty shallow and manky. 10-22-2015 at 20:51 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Probability of Winning A Grand Canyon Permit Richp, 1. I agree, with the workable compromise. 2. I agree, the park would be slow to change this policy for a verity of reasons based on... 10-22-2015 at 20:20 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
A few detailed questions on Wave Destroyers, frames, etc. Sorry to bring up an older topic but another thought occurred to me while I was bored wating for spring:( When I build my frames I build them with... 10-22-2015 at 20:16 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Aerial Drones and wilderness rivers As if humans have no impact on wildlife, wild lands or each other? In wilderness areas they should be banned. They are machines and have the same... 10-22-2015 at 20:02 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ranking Kayak Races Seems we're both either right or wrong on this one... Not that I ever think I'll compete in something like this, but I have looked at the... 10-22-2015 at 19:51 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Probability of Winning A Grand Canyon Permit Hi Buckman, The concept is sound, and the only grumbling you would get could be from the folks who want to take more than eight in their party.... 10-22-2015 at 19:50 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Best Waterproof camera recommendations ---Quote (Originally by yojimbo)--- Sitting in the PFD pocket category, I've been happy with the Panasonic Lumix DMC-TS5. #2 waterproof camera in... 10-22-2015 at 19:28 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Sawtooth Welding Disregard, just heard back from Fish Craft 10-22-2015 at 18:32 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ranking Kayak Races Vallecito Race- so sick that most of the pros don't even show up. Vallecito creek race 2014 - Kayak Session Magazine... 10-22-2015 at 18:26 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
AW Action Alert! Last Chance To Comment On The Colorado Water Plan! ---Quote (Originally by yesimapirate)--- I would also like to note that I have a green lawn. It's watered once a week at 2am with 6 minutes per... 10-22-2015 at 18:20 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Sleeping Bags - Synthetic "vs" Down The discussion continues. I have a bunch of sleeping bags, have not found one that works for every thing. So far, my most favorite down bag is... 10-22-2015 at 18:06 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
REO or PRO? Cieba is great. Used them twice. Food and gear very solid. The even provided low sugar and organic options at our request. 10-22-2015 at 17:55 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Action Alert: Bad Hydropower Legislation Returns Does not seem to be a Trojan horse at all, for example: The term “consistent to the maximum extent practicable” means fully consistent with the... 10-22-2015 at 17:45 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Action Alert: Bad Hydropower Legislation Returns What does "maximum extent practicable" mean under federal law? That seems like a Trojan horse of sorts. 10-22-2015 at 17:02 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Help me understand this Grand Canyon Heli rescue (Sorry, Outlaw) I'll just say that that article was a piece of garbage. However, it was written for the larger NatGeo audience, whose... 10-22-2015 at 16:46 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ranking Kayak Races Whitewater Grand Prix? Aren't a lot of the races already listed qualifying races for the Grand Prix? 10-22-2015 at 16:24 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
AW Action Alert! Last Chance To Comment On The Colorado Water Plan! Pardon my French here, but fuch those Front Rangers and their excessive water needs. Maybe the Front Range should go the way of the dry states in the... 10-22-2015 at 16:17 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Chit Chat : Firewood Group Buy Author: jalmquist
Subject: Firewood Group Buy
Posted: 22 Oct 2015 at 4:13pm

Sign me up!  If it ain't rubbed with ginger, it ain't real firewood...  
10-22-2015 at 16:13 Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Action Alert: Bad Hydropower Legislation Returns ---Quote (Originally by restrac2000)--- This language is potentially concerning ---Quote--- Â?(3) To the extent any omission or action taken by... 10-22-2015 at 16:02 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Any difference in performance with the color of cooler? Just get your water from a glacier in Alaska. You'll never need ice again. https://youtu.be/Ly1c22SMKow?t=47 10-22-2015 at 15:28 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Best Trip ever update; Schutzie had his surgery; no pain cause, you know, better living through chemicals .................... Anyway, rehab starts tomorrow And... 10-22-2015 at 15:04 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Sleeping Bags - Synthetic "vs" Down I am glad he didn't model the fish net long johns. They are why I can't trust his claims. 10-22-2015 at 15:03 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Any difference in performance with the color of cooler? ---Quote (Originally by soggy_tortillas)--- OH MAN!!!!! Did you guys know Yeti has a blue cooler????? How does it compare to the ice melt rate of... 10-22-2015 at 14:53 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Chit Chat : Firewood Group Buy Author: James
Subject: Firewood Group Buy
Posted: 22 Oct 2015 at 2:41pm

I am going to make a group buy of this, anyone in?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBb9O-aW4zI


10-22-2015 at 14:41 Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
AW Action Alert! Last Chance To Comment On The Colorado Water Plan! Article in the post this morning suggests there will be changes made to the Water Plan because of Front Range concerns, including ensuring new... 10-22-2015 at 14:29 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Applications of Breath-holding from Free Diving to Kayaking One of the things I've considered as I've trained as a kayaker is that I'd really like to be able to hold my breath for a long long time. I... 10-22-2015 at 14:09 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Porker has been Banned? ---Quote (Originally by dirtbagkayaker)--- Not! Nobody goes around moderating ppls conversions at the BBQ! If people start playing god, then they... 10-22-2015 at 14:05 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : NRS Un-Pin Kit Author: megspk
Subject: NRS Un-Pin Kit
Posted: 22 Oct 2015 at 1:51pm

Z drags definitely take some time and quick thinking to set up. I have never seen one used on a live kayaker, in real life or in videos. If a person is that "stuck" I'd imagine your primary goal is to keep their head above water without putting yourself in danger. I think a zdrag would rip off any points of contact on rescue vest and it wouldn't be a good idea to have a rope wrapped around a swimmer, this would really impede their ability to breathe even if their head was above water, plus it's unsafe.

In the case of the necessity of the zdrag kit: I feel it's always necessary to have it on you because you never know when you may need it. Especially in the case of more remote runs or more difficult runs. Obviously the difficulty of the river increases the likelihood you could be pinned. The remoteness decreases the timeliness in which you can get to help or off the river. In these cases it's best if you can rescue your gear on your own so you can get off the river and back to your car VS. hiking out and potentially getting lost or ending up in trouble with hypothermia, injuries, bears, meth heads, etc.
10-22-2015 at 13:51 Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Black Boxes... Dropping. Hopefully some weirdos got on it. Two years ago the water quality was crazy. Seemed like a drainage flashed with lots of ash in it.... 10-22-2015 at 12:55 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
REO or PRO? I have only used REO but thought they were excellent. As stated above some imperfect rigging but they give you so many extras that it is easy to get... 10-22-2015 at 12:51 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Deso beta - low flow Trip follow up We put in Friday 10/16 and left Swaseys yesterday. It rained every day but the first day and a half. One night, I think sat into... 10-22-2015 at 12:40 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ideas on rigging a 16' cat Just got off a wet Deso trip yesterday. Flow jumped from 3000 to 9000 (briefly). I already have plans to change a few ways I rig my Recretec frame... 10-22-2015 at 12:02 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ideas on rigging a 16' cat Here are a couple pics of the final iteration of my cat, before I switched to the dark side and got a raft. Cooler up front, then the rower foot bay... 10-22-2015 at 11:41 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : NRS Un-Pin Kit Author: itchy
Subject: NRS Un-Pin Kit
Posted: 22 Oct 2015 at 10:34am

I'm curious if anyone has used a Z-drag to unpin a live kayaker.  I've only used them on rafts, after everyone has been safely unloaded, and I think once to get some wood out of a drop. Obviously they're not uncommonly used on kayaks but I think less frequently than in the past, now that we're not creeking in Overflows, and both pinning and pitoning are a little less common. Nonetheless, it seems that Z-drags are used on empty boats and in some cases really bad pins, after rescue efforts have been unsuccessful and there is time to set up a Z-drag.  But that's just me and my experience (and overheard stories) which are basically just anecdata.

What I have done in the past is get a line under a pinned boater's (and also foot-entrapped swimmer's) chest and pulled their heads above the surface, and then after that the rest of the rescue (getting the kayaker out of the boat, and cutting of the sandal of the raft swimmer) can proceed at a bit more stately pace.  I don't remember this being talked about a lot in my rescue training, which admittedly was part of raft guide training 15 years ago so things might be different in a modern swiftwater course.  Both of those incidences involved 3+ rescuers so we didn't fix the ropes to anything that I can remember, but looking back on it, I might spend some time thinking about how to really quickly get a line across a river and have it fixed on at least one side.

Maybe I should just keep a come-along in my stern.  It'd help with boofs and squirts too.
10-22-2015 at 10:34 Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : NRS Un-Pin Kit Author: mikefromTX
Subject: NRS Un-Pin Kit
Posted: 22 Oct 2015 at 8:45am

Not carrying prusiks or pulleys are seriously setting yourself up for failure. Without them, you've limited yourself to a system where 2 vital things work against you:

1.) You cannot capture progress. Once you take rope stretch into account, your going to get a very small amount of movement on your 1 pull. When you release the rope all the tension you gained will be released because there is no prusik at the anchor.

2.) You cannot reset the system if your tying an overhand knot. Just because MOST situations MAY not need more than one pull, doesn't mean it's a good idea not to be prepared for other scenarios.

Petzl pulleys that go on a carabiner are 5$ a piece and weigh only a few ounces. I have prusik minding pulleys as I sometimes boat with just my partner, so if I have to rescue him, I must do it alone.
Not having pulleys also diminishes the amount of advantage you gain, as friction from a wet rope around the biners will be significant compared to pulleys.

Creating a 3 to 1 without prusiks and pulleys is both possible, and maybe adequate depending on the situation. To limit yourself on gear to save a few ounces is neither reasonable nor prudent. This is my opinion, and to each his own.

At the end of the day were talking about maybe 6 ounces of gear and 10 to 30$ depending on what you buy. Why someone would take a minimalist approach to rescue gear doesn't make a lot of sense to me. There are people with much more rescue training and experience than me, so maybe there's a reasoning here I don't understand. Just my 2 cents on the subject.
10-22-2015 at 08:45 Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : NRS Un-Pin Kit Author: NateW
Subject: NRS Un-Pin Kit
Posted: 22 Oct 2015 at 8:12am

The BCU course discourages the use of tow ropes to rescue boats. I fall on the side of not using them unless it's on pretty mellow whitewater. There is potential for the release mechanism on your PFD to not work properly, and being attached to another boat can be seriously dangerous. For stuff like rescuing a boat on the Wenatchee they can be pretty damn useful.
10-22-2015 at 08:12 Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Daydreaming of Xinjiang/Kyrgyzstan trip BmfnL, it took a little digging... http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/26-09-2007/97752-russian_canoeists-0/ 10-22-2015 at 06:04 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Help me understand this Grand Canyon Heli rescue ---Quote (Originally by Outlaw)--- For a bunch of folks sitting in their offices or typing on their phones, there sure is a lot of judgement going... 10-22-2015 at 05:53 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Black Boxes... ---Quote (Originally by jmack)--- We did it September 2 years ago. It was a much wetter fall. We almost ran out of water after day 1. Then the... 10-22-2015 at 05:10 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Sleeping Bags - Synthetic "vs" Down I once floated the Stikine from Telegraph Creek down to the ocean during a cold rainy fall. My gear was shipped up there and lost, so a friend loaned... 10-22-2015 at 04:33 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ideas on rigging a 16' cat I ran a 14 foot cataract for 16 years. My original frame was a welded steel modular frame. Row module, large cargo module, small cargo module. I used... 10-22-2015 at 04:20 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Probability of Winning A Grand Canyon Permit Hi Buckman, you have an interesting idea. For years we have been writing the NPS saying the NPS forecast a huge use in the winter, and the actual... 10-22-2015 at 03:35 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else